Friday, August 19, 2005

C. H. Spurgeon on Calvinism

"We believe in the five great points commonly known as Calvinistic; but we do not regard these five points as being barbed shafts which we are to thrust between the ribs of our fellow Christians. We look upon them as being five great lamps which help to irradiate the cross; or, rather, five bright emanations springing from the glorious covenant of our Triune God, and illustrating the great doctrine of Jesus crucified."

- C. H. Spurgeon

5 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well said.

19/8/05 2:39 PM  
Blogger Daniel Ho said...

Good article :) I always like Spurgeons.

19/8/05 5:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Prince of Preachers seems to have carried quite a reputation for himself through the years. He did seem to have a heart for reason. Something that seems to be wasted on an apostate church today, a church that does not even know what the "gospel" is! Like the supreme court that does not need to rewrite law in order to "perceive" it exactly the opposite of it's original intention, so to has the devil twisted the words of men and God to condemn them.The Devil is the most religious beast around and men (the church also) has fallen for his mastery. Calvinism would not be defined the same by Spurgeon as by John MacArthur. God has given us a free will and the Calvinist cannot accept the fact that he is a sinner of his own volition but desires to blame it on a gracious, holy and pure God!

10/10/05 4:13 AM  
Blogger beowulf said...

God has given us a free will and the Calvinist cannot accept the fact that he is a sinner of his own volition but desires to blame it on a gracious, holy and pure God!

Seriously, could you take a look at this article "Some advice to those who take it upon themselves to write against Calvinism"?

I do believe that we are sinners because of our own volitions. And I also do believe, according to the Word of God, that we cannot seek God on our own (Romans 3:10-11, John 6:44, 1 Corinthians 2:14). Only the Holy Spirit is able to draw the elect to God.

I have covered this issue in another comment.

16/10/05 4:55 PM  
Blogger Maj.Jesse said...

The issue of Calvinism is oft confused by the ignorant.
"Free Will" does not exist in the Bible, except for "Free Will Offerings" of the Old Covenant which were optional.
What MAN has is actually "Free Agency." It simply means that Man makes decisions [ 99 44/100% of the time]without being under DURESS.

The issue of Romans chapter 6 is this: "Can a man [merely under his own power and unaided by God] seek Righteousness in general and seek after the things of God, in specific?" The answer is NO.

Christ said "All who sin are SLAVES to sin." in Romans chapter 8, Paul the Apostle adds this:
"The mind of sinful man is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace; the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God's law, nor can it do so.

If Man cannot nor will not come to God, and give up their penchant for sin, how can he be saved?
Jesus adds this from John 6:36ff :

36But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day.

So, we can only turn to Christ IF Christ empowers us to do so.
Does Christ empower everyone?
The Lord adds this in MT 11:

"All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him."

Let ME add this:

the only 3 possible entries for "Whom Did Jesus Die" are as follows :

a. Jesus died for ALL sins of ALL people.

or

b. Jesus died for SOME sins of ALL
people.

or

c. Jesus died for ALL sins of SOME people.

Now follow me on this :

1. We must immmediately DELETE as WRONG the option of "B".
Why? If Jesus only died for SOME of the sins of peope, then NO one makes it to Heaven, since there are still some sins unatoned and unpropitiated for.

2. Nest, we must question and ultimately throw out option "A".

Why?

Because Jesus did not die for ALL sins that exist on the Earth.
Did not Jesus ( SEE Luke 12) say that there was ONE sin that was UNFORGIVABLE? We call it "The Unpardonable Sin." Now, no matter HOW you define this sin, it cannot be unbelief in Jesus, because we ALL had been in unbelief in Jesus PRIOR to our conversion.
Nevertheless, Jesus said that ONE sin was UNforgivable. Was it NOT forgivable because Sin is Stronger than God? Heaven forbid! God has ALL power. Before Creation there was NO sinful creatures in the universe. He created ALL things and He has all power to DESTROY all things, if such were needed.

The only other option is that Jesus never died with that one sin in mind.

Now, there are probably VERY FEW people who have ever spoken willful EVIL against the Spirit of God. But even if there were only 5 persons who ever commited that sin, let's say ... then Jesus did not die for that sin. If Jesus did not die for that one sin, then He did not die for those who commit that sin. They would still be LOST if all of their other sins were covered, except for that ONE!

Jesus died for EVERY sin that Man may commit . . . except one, and for those who commit that sin, there is NO atonement. We either
Have to admit that SIN is Omnipotent and God is weak, or that God IS Omnipotent and has omnipotently stated that one sin is not forgiveable and is such because God has chosen it to be outside of the purview of the atoning work of Christ.

Ergo: If Jesus did not die for 1 particular sin, then He also did not die for the unfortunates who commit that sin.

The correct statement is this : Jesus died for ALL sins of ALL sinners who are covered by the Propitiatory, saving work of Christ. Those who come to Christ will NEVER commit that sin.

15/2/07 2:56 AM  

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